Lessons Learned: Dan Hesse, CEO of Sprint-Nextel
July 11th, 2008Interviewed by R. Scott Macintosh on July 3, 2008
Just months into his new job as CEO of Sprint Nextel, Dan Hesse talks about the reasons for joining the beleaguered telecom, the importance of simplicity, customer service and other lessons learned about…
APPEARING IN A NATIONAL TV AD
There’s a risk involved with putting the CEO in the ad, because most CEO ads don’t work that well. They don’t run for a long period of time. But some do—Lee Iacocca; Dave Thomas from Wendy’s. The [Sprint] ads have scored extremely well. They work. I don’t think it’s because of me. I think it’s because of the message. The message is a very clear one that people can understand—the simplicity of Simply Everything. That’s really the key. People like the idea of Simply Everything. It’s very distinctive and the only offer like it. So it does break through.
DAN@SPRINT.COM
It was a good idea. It was our ad agency’s idea of putting me out there and also having a way to communicate. It’s been very helpful. We’re learning a lot, not only from customers but from non-customers with respect to what they think about Sprint. I don’t see every email. But I get a daily report. There are categories, subjects that explain what they’re about. So I can see a sampling of the emails.
LISTENING IN AT CALL CENTERS
Generally, the tone of the conversations is pretty nice. Most importantly to the customers who call in, whatever their issue, is that they get an answer to their question or they get their issue resolved. The care rep has to know so much. There are so many different screens they have to go to, numbers of rate plans and combinations that customers could buy—our business was far too complex. We eliminated 85 percent of the combinations customers could buy from us. We really needed to simplify the business. It was too complicated for our customers and too complicated for our reps and people who dealt with customers.
CUSTOMER SERVICE
Every single week, in every meeting of our management team, we count the number of calls coming into our call centers. It’s a huge metric. We measure all the reasons they call. The big objective around here is improving the customer experience in a way where we can measure it. There are really two major metrics on which all the employees of the company are paid. One is churn—that is, customers leaving us; the straw that broke the camel’s back. The other is the number of calls coming into care. We want to reduce the reasons they call.
TAKING THE JOB
If what you want to do is make a difference in the lives of others, there are a variety of vocations. You can teach. You can be involved in public service. You can enter the clergy. But few things today give you the opportunity to impact as many lives in a positive way as running a major company.
HIS PREDECESSOR
I learned a lot from Gary [Foresee]. With respect to Kansas City, there’s probably no one that I’ve ever seen lead a company who’s taken his role in the community more seriously.
PREPARING FOR THE UNEXPECTED
The best way to prepare for the unexpected is to create the unexpected for your competitors. Innovate and drive and go on the offensive instead of being on the defensive. Try to create something unexpected for them. You change the game so they’re reacting to you rather than vice versa. You’re fist mover. I’ve always believed in that. The biggest advantage of being an innovator is that you’re not dealing with the unexpected, they are.
WiMAX
We’ll be the first in the market with 4-G services, super-high data speed services. We’ll be out there first. We’ll also create a new business model around it. WiMax is working in 100 countries around the world. It’s a very tested technology, but we wanted to test our latest version of WiMax, with higher data speeds and higher mobile data speed that had been deployed in earlier versions. We’re getting ready to do our very first commercial launch in September. It works. We’re ready for practice. We need to build out. You need to build-out more coverage before you launch commercially. You need to build out enough coverage so you have a decent footprint so you have a good customer experience. That’s what takes the time.
MERGING WITH NEXTEL
Mergers of equals really rarely work. And I think what they tried to do when they put Sprint and Nextel together was to do a merger of equals. The cultures never came clearly together. You had two headquarters—the corporate headquarters in Reston, Virginia, and the operating headquarters here. The board of directors was split roughly 50/50. The senior team and management was split roughly 50/50. The major thing, if you could go back in time, it should have been one or the other. Choose which one, but go with one. One headquarters. One culture.
SELLING OFF NEXTEL
Nothing is off the table. This is a rapidly changing business. We don’t have blinders on. Opportunities always present themselves. There was an opportunity to create this new Clearwater company. We took it. That was a situation or opportunity we didn’t even contemplate only a few months ago. Who knows what business structure we may end up with over time, but we’re taking a very open approach to what that could be.
iPHONE
It really reinforces the importance of strong brand. There’s no question that the big element of success of the iPhone has been the strength of the Apple brand. The second thing is that customers will pay for something that they want. The iPhone is an indication that customers really do want to use the phone for a lot more than just making voice calls. Proof point of that.
COMPETING WITH THE iPHONE
It’s difficult in some respects, but easier as well because it creates more attention for the space. iPhone kind of blazed a trail there. The Instinct is by far the most successful phone the company has ever had, based on its first two weeks in the market. My gut would be, that if we had launched the Instinct and the iPhone hadn’t existed, we wouldn’t have sold as many Instincts. I will give Apple it’s due. They have set a high bar. But it has also opened the market in terms of what consumers are looking for in these devices.
PROFITABILITY
They [Instinct phones] detract from our profitability, quite frankly, because we subsidize the hell out of them. Those phones are a lot more expensive—they all are, really—than what a customer buys it for. Where we will make our money is if customers want to use a lot of additional applications and will buy something like Simply Everything, which is $100 a month, and we will see a lot more sales of these plans where you can use all of these features if you have devices that make it fun and easy to use all of those features. We’re seeing a lot of customers buy-up to Simply Everything because there are devices that make Simply Everything worth having.
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